Several times I have mentioned the deer pamphlets the PGC has and has placed on their website...

I hope most have taken the time to read these and have formed opinions about the information shared...

I recieved this attached to an E-mail this morning from one of our politicians and think some of you will really enjoy the critic by this guy ---

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I must tell you the state is talking about your new addition to the PGC website, "PA Deer Management".  Although, talking would not be an accurate descrïption of the ongoings.  The boys are laughing, swearing and downright infuriated that once again the Agency would spend sportsman's dollars for such drivel.  I am too busy to go into great detail, so I'll only hit the highlights.   1 - A healthy herd analysis is not solely created by counting fetuses in road-killed deer.  The deception you create is that if reproduction isn't two fawns for every mature doe, there are too many deer.  This is utter nonsense.  I would wager you our reproduction rates in their respective WMU's haven't changed in decades.  You can shoot our herd down to three deer per square mile and not see an increase in production.  This is a malice or incompetence situation.  Take your pick.   2 - The document speaks of a healthy forest.  Once again the deception is that only low numbers of deer can provide a healthy forest ecosystem.  More utter nonsense.  With ph's running from 3 to 5, if we are lucky, you will not achieve a healthy forest if you killed every deer in the state.  The picture of the fern field must be a joke.  Implying that deer cause fern fields is the utmost insult to our intelligence.    3 - The picture of a buck crossing a road in a suburban development is hysterical.  Suburban deer problems have absolutely nothing to do with statewide deer management in our huntable forests.  The picture of a small herd of deer standing in the snow in a small woodlot is reprehensible.  It looks like the picture was taken at a deer farm.  You couldn't duplicate that scenario on our public lands if I gave you a fistful of fifties to produce the picture.  Furthermore, deer instinctively herd together in the winter.   4 - Deer don't cripple a forest ecosystem.  It would take substantial numbers of deer to create the forest damage that the PGC and DCNR claims.  With healthy soils we could have fifty deer per square mile and an expert would have trouble identifying the impact.  Deer impacts are natural and necessary for the proper evolution of a sustainable forest.  If you want to find fault, take an objective look at the state's forestry practices over the past fifty years.   Lastly, the entire document is a waste of sportsmen's dollars.  It is a weak attempt at justifying qualitative deer management as an acceptable method of managing the remnants of our deer herd.  No state practices qualitative deer management.  It is vague, subjective and easily corrupted program.  I am certain the lawsuit and upcoming audit will provide great insight into the political behavior of the PGC and DCNR.   Sincerely, Jim Slinsky

That was a good read.  

Wish I would of looked at the author before reading. I have yet to read or hear anything but negative criticism from this man. His glass is always half empty never half full. Just my two cents.

Same old, Same old...  

Slimsky  wrote

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You couldn't duplicate that scenario on our public lands if I gave you a fistful of fifties to produce the picture.

To bad he was not traveling home from the sportsman's club with me tonite....

Saw 7 antlerless and a perfect 15-17" spread 8 pointer standing all together (just like the photo)  just out of the woods on SGL#54 entering a field alongside the road where even the field is open to the public for hunting...


For a fistful of fifties I would have stopped and tried to find a couple more to take his money

 

--Last edited by Dr Trout on 2008-01-16 21:59:55 --

The picture of a small herd of deer standing in the snow in a small woodlot is reprehensible.  It looks like the picture was taken at a deer farm.  You couldn't duplicate that scenario on our public lands if I gave you a fistful of fifties to produce the picture.  

I wonder if he'll give me a handfull of fifties.
I could show him that almost any day of the week around here on public land. but I really liked #4 cause isn't that what we had in the 70's.
LMAO
Mike

Then when he writes he should be specific about what EXACT area he is talking about.. BUT of course that ain't gonna happen... he is just a negative writer and never gives details...always generalities or what he hears from hunters or others...

and what he "hears" is ALWAYS from whiners... others know it is a waste of time to try to communicate with him on opposing views....he is right and everyone else is wrong .... and he has facts/friends to prove it

If you get a chance read the article he got pubished in the march issue of Deer & Deer Hunting. It's a good thing he's not a math teacher. LOL
Mike

I will have to check that out at my local Barnes and Noble.  Thanks...  

That is the most recent issue right?